Charles Hall b. 1891
Peter's great-grandfather.
Also recorded as Charles Henry Hall.
Charles Hall was born in 1891 in Texas, United States2,3. He married Susan May McCabe on 17 Aug 1917 (according to the family's 2015 tree)18. He died, probably 12 Sep 1961 (VA index card; unconfirmed, see note)19; place unknown.
Note on the date of death. The date 12 Sep 1961 comes from one record, the VA index card19, and is not confirmed. Date from the VA Master Index card only (Q5GN-L53Z), where it is the same day and month as his birth (9/12), so a clerical echo is possible. No place. No 1961 death was found on FamilySearch for a Charles Hall b. 1890-91 in CA, OR, WA or TX (queries in the README), nor in the Washington State Digital Archives death records (Charles Hall, 1955-75: none; the WA death index has a gap 1961-64). An online family tree says only that he died3.
Family
- Wife
- Susan May McCabe 1887–1972 · married on 17 Aug 1917
- Children
- Charles Henry Hall 1920–2001 tradition
- Margaret Hall 1919–1978 tradition
- Catherine Elizabeth Hall b. 1922 tradition
Life events
| Event | Date | Place and details |
|---|---|---|
| Born | 1891 | Texas, United States2,3 |
| Military service | 5 Jun 1917 | California, United States WWI draft card: age 25, born 12 September 1891 at Comanche, Texas; natural-born citizen; farmer for F. W. McCauley, El Portal; no dependents; single; tall, slender, dark blue eyes, light brown hair. Signed 'Chas. Hall'.6 |
| Military service | 27 Jul 1917 | California, United States Draft-lottery list printed in the Merced paper: '107 Chas. Henry Hall, El Portal.'7 |
| Military service | 18 Aug 1917 | California, United States Draft serial no. 107, order no. 10. Examined by the Mariposa Local Exemption Board: 'Passed and No Exemption Claimed'.8 |
| Military service | 25 Aug 1917 | California, United States On the corrected list of men called for service (order no. 10). The same article says all single men were denied exemption, which fits the draft card's 'single'.9 |
| Military service | 19 Sep 1917 | California, United States Inducted with the first Mariposa contingent: he left Wednesday 19 Sep 1917 for training at Camp Lewis (Pierce Co., WA), home of the 91st Division. This independently corroborates the VA master index card (FamilySearch Q5GN-L53Z): '316 MP / 91st Div'.10 |
| Military service | 30 Sep 1918 | Washington, United States Private, service no. 2274478. Roster at midnight 30 Sep 1918, page 2, Privates no. 70, with no remark: he was already in the company on 1 Sep, while other men are marked 'Joined Co 6th' etc. The 31 Oct 1918 roster of the same company lists him again: '57. Hall, Charles H. 2274478', no remark (Roll…11 |
| Military service | 11 Nov 1918 | Washington, United States Transferred out of the 48th Co., 12th Bn., 166th Depot Brigade on 11 Nov 1918. Listed under 'LOSSES FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER', Privates no. 20. The destination is not stated; every loss on the page reads 'Trans Nov. [day]'. Indexed by FS as a 31 Dec 1918 roster. OCR misreads the serial as…12 |
| Military service | 31 Dec 1918 | Clark County, Washington, Washington, United States Private, roster at midnight 31 Dec 1918, page 4, no. 63, with no remark. The serial is a blurred carbon reading '2,274,47[8]'. The next line, '64. Hall, Ralph E. 880,443 / Jnd. for duty Dec. 28/18', is another man. This places him at Vancouver Barracks seven weeks after he left Camp Lewis.13 |
| Military service | Apr 1919 | Vancouver, Clark County, Washington, United States VA Master Index card: Pvt, 'B H Co A 316 MP' (the 316th Train Headquarters and Military Police, 91st Division, the Camp Lewis division of West Coast draftees, home in Apr 1919); service no. 2 274 478; born 9/12/90; discharged 4/ /19; died 9-12-61 (stamped 9-20-61). Claim file XC 198 015; A 4 421…14 |
| Lived | 7 Jan 1920 | Clark County, Washington, Washington, United States5 |
| Note | bet 1930 and 1950 | Separated from Susan by 1930: she heads the household and is 'married' in 1930, 'widowed' in 1940 and 'separated' in 1950. He was not found in the 1930, 1940 or 1950 census, and his death was not found.15 |
| Origin | Texas, United States According to the family's 2015 tree4 | |
| Died | probably 12 Sep 1961 | VA index card; unconfirmed, see note.19 Place unknown. Supporting: an online family tree, which records the death without a date.3 |
| Note | Is he the WWI registrant Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep 1891 Comanche TX (El Portal CA, 1917)? Probably yes. (1) The VA card links a Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep [1890], to Vancouver WA and to a 91st Division unit; (2) there are only two Texas-born Charles H. Halls b. 1890-91 in the 1920 census:…16 | |
| Note | Other Texas-born Charles Halls b. 1890-92 seen in 1920 (FamilySearch 1920 census, birthplace Texas, b. 1890-91): Charly B. Hall, single, Fresno CA (the only other West Coast one); Charles M. Hall, single, McClain Co. OK (with parents Walter C. and Mary E.); Charlie Hall, married, Van Zandt Co. TX…17 |
Records


![Scan of the record: 48th Co., 12th Bn., 166th D.B., Camp Lewis, Wash., Dec. [4?], 1918: Losses for the month of November](../../img/records/muster-1918-11-losses-166db-48co-hall-2274478-trans-nov11.jpg)


Open questions
- Charles H. Hall Sr. = Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep 1890/91 Comanche, TX (WWI draft card, El Portal CA, 1917; VA card 'Vancouver Wash') Probably
- Weak candidates for the later Charles: Charles M. Hall (Hail, Fannin Co. TX, 1950, divorced) and Charles Henry Hall (Blaine Co. OK 1940; McAlester penitentiary 1942–43) Doubtful
- Other Charles Halls b. 1890 TX: Charles Henderson Hall (Groom TX, d. 1952) and Charles Blanton Hall (Los Angeles, d. 1956) Ruled out
- Charles H. Hall Sr., b. 26 Sep 1891, d. 14 Jun 1973, Rose Hills, Whittier CA (Find a Grave 102551051) Unlikely
- Family tradition: Charles H. Hall Sr.'s father was 'Peter Hall' Doubtful
- Parents of Charles H. Hall Sr. (b. c. 1891 TX) and Susan McCabe (b. 1886/87 Ireland) Open
- Where and when Charles H. Hall Sr. married Susan McCabe Open
Sources
- Hall, Charles Henry / Margaret Ellen, Clarke, Susan McCab, 1-6-19.
400 Hall, Charles Henry | Margaret Ellen | Clarke | Susan McCab | 1-6-19 | F | W | 129
Full name is Charles Henry Hall, the same as his son. His son's 1946 marriage return calls him 'Charles H. Hall Sr.'
- Marriage statistics, Charles H Hall and Stella M Rowley, Clark Co., 11 May 1946.
Name of Father: Charles H. Hall Sr. | Birthplace of Father: Texas | Maiden Name of Mother: Susan McCabe | Birthplace of Mother: Ireland
Age 29 on 7 Jan 1920 (1920 census). His son's 1946 marriage return gives his birthplace as Texas.
- FamilySearch Family Tree: Charles H Hall (P935-BVZ).
- Peter's tree, danenberg.sql, 2007–2015, personae 116, provenance.
- Charles H Hall household, Vancouver, Clark, WA, ED 36, sheet 8A, lines 14-16 (dwelling 145, family 201).
112 | 145 | 201 | Hall Charles H | Head | R | M W 29 M | yes yes | Texas | Texas | Texas | Mechanic | Automobile shop | W
Head, renting. Male, white, 29, married. Can read and write. Born Texas; father born Texas; mother born Texas. Mechanic, automobile shop, wage worker. Household: wife Susie A., daughter Margaret E.
- Charles Henry Hall, Mariposa County, California, card 107 / no. 7.
Charles Henry Hall | 25 | El Portal California | September 12th 1891 | Natural born citizen | Comanche Texas U.S.A. | Farmer | F.W. McCauley El Portal Calif | Single | Caucasian | Chas. Hall
WWI draft card: age 25, born 12 September 1891 at Comanche, Texas; natural-born citizen; farmer for F. W. McCauley, El Portal; no dependents; single; tall, slender, dark blue eyes, light brown hair. Signed 'Chas. Hall'.
- From the Sun's Special Correspondents: Mariposa, Merced County Sun, 27 Jul 1917.
107 Chas. Henry Hall, El Portal.
Draft-lottery list printed in the Merced paper: '107 Chas. Henry Hall, El Portal.'
- Many Mariposans Claiming Exemption, Mariposa Gazette, 18 Aug 1917.
Passed and No Exemption Claimed. Serial Order No. Name Address No ... 107 Charles Henry Hall, EI Portal. Cal .... 10
Draft serial no. 107, order no. 10. Examined by the Mariposa Local Exemption Board: 'Passed and No Exemption Claimed'.
- Men Called to Arms From Mariposa County, Mariposa Gazette, 25 Aug 1917.
All claims made for exemption by married men were granted by the local Board, and all single men were denied exemption ... 107 Charles Henry Hall. El Portal. Cal. 10
On the corrected list of men called for service (order no. 10). The same article says all single men were denied exemption, which fits the draft card's 'single'.
- Young Men to Leave for Service Next Week, Mariposa Gazette, 15 Sep 1917.
They will go to Camp Lewis for training ... Wednesday, Sept. 19th.—Walter A. Grace, William Pierce, Charles 11 Hall, William R. Bonds, Andrew Horgan.
Inducted with the first Mariposa contingent: he left Wednesday 19 Sep 1917 for training at Camp Lewis (Pierce Co., WA), home of the 91st Division. This independently corroborates the VA master index card (FamilySearch Q5GN-L53Z): '316 MP / 91st Div'.
- Roster of 48th Company, 12th Battalion, 166th Depot Brigade, at midnight September 30th, 1918, NARA Roll 2105, DGS 106875374, images 524 (header) and 525 (line).
Roster of 48th Company, 12th Battalion, 166th Depot Brigade, at midnight September 30th, 1918. ... 70. Hall, Charles H. 2274478
Private, service no. 2274478. Roster at midnight 30 Sep 1918, page 2, Privates no. 70, with no remark: he was already in the company on 1 Sep, while other men are marked 'Joined Co 6th' etc. The 31 Oct 1918 roster of the same company lists him again: '57. Hall, Charles H. 2274478', no remark (Roll 2105, image 3:1:3QHV-J3DB-J94D-9, record 4T56-FV2M).
- 48th Co., 12th Bn., 166th D.B., Camp Lewis, Wash., Dec. [4?], 1918: Losses for the month of November, NARA Roll 2105, DGS 106875374, image 540.
LOSSES FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER: ... 20. Hall, Charles H. 2274478 Trans Nov. 11th
Transferred out of the 48th Co., 12th Bn., 166th Depot Brigade on 11 Nov 1918. Listed under 'LOSSES FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER', Privates no. 20. The destination is not stated; every loss on the page reads 'Trans Nov. [day]'. Indexed by FS as a 31 Dec 1918 roster. OCR misreads the serial as 2874476; on the image it reads 2274478.
- Roster of Detachment Medical Department, Post Hospital, Vancouver Barracks, Washington at midnight Dec. 31, 1918, NARA Roll 1988, DGS 106823790, images 1521 (header) and 1524 (line).
Roster of Detachment Medical Department, Post Hospital, Vancouver Barracks, Washington at midnight Dec. 31, 1918 ... 63. Hall, Charles H. 2,274,47[8]
Private, roster at midnight 31 Dec 1918, page 4, no. 63, with no remark. The serial is a blurred carbon reading '2,274,47[8]'. The next line, '64. Hall, Ralph E. 880,443 / Jnd. for duty Dec. 28/18', is another man. This places him at Vancouver Barracks seven weeks after he left Camp Lewis.
- Hall, Charles Henry, Vancouver Wash, b. 9/12/90.
HALL CHARLES HENRY | Pvt B H Co A 316 MP | Vancouver Wash | Sn 2 274 478 | Born 9/12/90 | Died 9-12-61 | Dis 4/ /19 | XC 198 015
VA Master Index card: Pvt, 'B H Co A 316 MP' (the 316th Train Headquarters and Military Police, 91st Division, the Camp Lewis division of West Coast draftees, home in Apr 1919); service no. 2 274 478; born 9/12/90; discharged 4/ /19; died 9-12-61 (stamped 9-20-61). Claim file XC 198 015; A 4 421 289; T 1 999 247; R 24 241; Ct. 3 776 663. Address: Vancouver Wash.
- Cathryn Hall household, Portland, Multnomah, OR, page 6, lines 10-11.
Susan Hall | Mother | W | 63 | Sep | Ireland
Separated from Susan by 1930: she heads the household and is 'married' in 1930, 'widowed' in 1940 and 'separated' in 1950. He was not found in the 1930, 1940 or 1950 census, and his death was not found.
- Charles H Hall, Pilot Point, Denton, Texas.
Charles H Hall | Married | 1920 Pilot Point, Denton, Texas | Birth: 1891 Texas (household: Cora A b. 1897, Alma M 1913, James O 1915, Charles H 1916)
Is he the WWI registrant Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep 1891 Comanche TX (El Portal CA, 1917)? Probably yes. (1) The VA card links a Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep [1890], to Vancouver WA and to a 91st Division unit; (2) there are only two Texas-born Charles H. Halls b. 1890-91 in the 1920 census: ours (Vancouver) and one in Pilot Point, Denton Co., TX, who was married with a son Charles H. b. 1916 (MHT4-91L), so he cannot be the single man of Jun 1917 in California; (3) no WWII 1942 card for a Charles H. Hall b. 12 Sep 1890/91 (collection 1861144), and no 1930/1940 census entry that could be him with another family.
- Charles Hall, b. 1890-91 Texas (21 index rows).
Other Texas-born Charles Halls b. 1890-92 seen in 1920 (FamilySearch 1920 census, birthplace Texas, b. 1890-91): Charly B. Hall, single, Fresno CA (the only other West Coast one); Charles M. Hall, single, McClain Co. OK (with parents Walter C. and Mary E.); Charlie Hall, married, Van Zandt Co. TX (b. Jan 1891, parents James A. and Mary C., M35V-BSN in 1900); Charlie Hall (Black), married, Panola Co. TX; C. H. Hall (Black), married, Lavaca Co. TX; Henry C. Hall and N. C. Hall, married, Tarrant Co. TX; Charles H. Hall, married, Pilot Point, Denton Co. TX. None but ours is in WA or OR.
- Peter's tree, danenberg.sql, 2007–2015, unions 44, inauguration.
- United States, Veterans Administration Master Index, 1917-1940.